829: Supply Chains Shows


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Edward Baptist: “The sins of omission are really the ways slavery gets sanitized. The way it doesn’t get included in accounts of how the US became the largest economy in the world by the end of the 19th century.”

Free market ideology has been an integral part of American consciousness, even before what was being marketed was free. Edward Baptist explores the ties between American capitalism and its greatest shame in his new book The Half Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism.

Edward calls in to This is Hell! to explain how America’s rise to economic supremacy was fueled by slavery, the ways history lessons diminish both the brutality of slavery and the accomplishments of its resisters, and why exploitation and coerced labor still power global capitalism in the 21st century.

Edward Baptist is an historian and associate professor at Cornell University.



Steve Horn: “Not everything is lost here, but the point is that we really have to pay attention to legislation, and not just leave it up to hustlers in Washington DC, or else we’d all be clueless about what is happening.”

President Obama just signed off on expedited fracking of public land. We don’t know if he read that part of the 1,600-plus page spending bill. We don’t know if the members of the House and Senate read that part either. The only people we know read it are the industry lobbyists who probably wrote it, the politicians they paid off to pretend they wrote it, and Steve Horn from DeSmogBlog, who has covered the bill in his recent articles Revealed: How Big Oil Got Expedited Permitting for Fracking on Public Lands Into the Defense Bill and Not Just Public Lands: Defense Bill Also Incentivizes Fracked Gas Vehicles.

Steve calls in to explain what passage of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2015 means for the future of fracking on public lands, then talks about how bipartisan corruption means we need grassroots activism now more than ever, and what most activists get wrong about the fracking/jobs/environment argument.

Steve Horn is an investigative journalist and research fellow at DeSmogBlog.



Richard Falk: “Hamas is too sectarian, the Palestinian Authority is too compromised by its collaboration with Israel and the US, so it’s in civil society that I think the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinian people as a whole are now best represented.”

Richard Falk observed many different conflicts in his time as United Nations Special Rapporteur on human rights in occupied Palestine, but the struggle for political legitimacy is one of the most important, and winnable, conflicts facing people in the Occupied Territories. Richard profiles Palestinian resistance, under occupation and around the world, in his book Palestine: The Legitimacy of Hope.

Richard talks with Chuck about the internal and international politics of Palestinian independence, how America’s political leadership views the Israel/Palestine conflict from a skewed perspective, and why his hope for a legitimate Palestine lies not with parties or governments, but with the men and women living every day under occupation.

Richard Falk is an international law scholar and former United Nations Special Rapporteur on human rights in occupied Palestine.



Rory Fanning: “If you’re going to occupy a country, you have to entertain a degree of racism, you have to trust in the imperial agenda of the US. But in my experience, it was just guys doing their job, not questioning the chain of command.”

Former Army Ranger Rory Fanning walked away from war, command and occupation, then he kept on walking. In 2008, Rory set out on foot to raise money for the Pat Tillman Foundation, a cross-country journey he writes about in the book Worth Fighting For: An Army Ranger’s Journey Out of the Military and Across America.

Rory joins Chuck in the studio to talk about his mindset when he entered the military as a 22-year old right after 9/11, the experiences and conversations that set him on the road to opposing war, and what he hopes to accomplish by sharing his story with veterans across America.

Rory Fanning is a former Army Ranger, current conscientious objector and housing activist.



Tony McGee: “On the larger scale InBev are undertakers. They’re bankers escorting these global brands to their ultimate demise. They turn breweries into cash flow machines, to finance the next deal that the bankers who control InBev want to execute.”

How big does a microbrewery have to get before it’s not micro anymore? For Lagunitas founder Tony Magee, the answer has more to do with values than volume. Tony returns to This is Hell! to talk about beer, ethics and his new book So You Want to Start a Brewery?: The Lagunitas Story.

Tony talks about beer, obviously – from the ways social media has fueled the craft beer boom to experimentation happening right now in breweries around the world. But then the conversation takes a few weird turns, as Tony explores ideas of success, responsibility, private equity and the fundamental rules of the universe.

Tony Magee is the founder of Lagunitas Brewing.



Jeff Dorchen: “If America were not a nation of principles, elevating the discussion of justice, but just another team we’re all on, that we root for regardless, merely because we’re all us, it would not be my country. I would not consent to be American. Yet I do consent.”

Jeff Dorchen isn’t going to convince you that torture is wrong. Jeff Dorchen isn’t going to convince Dick Cheney that torture is wrong. So you, or Dick Cheney, need to get used to living in Jeff’s America, where dissent and consent walk hand-in-hand, justice and injustice don’t, and nothing gets put up anyone’s anus without them being okay with it.

According to his contacts on LinkedIn, Jeff Dorchen can do just about anything. He’s a visual artist, songwriter/musician, actor, essayist, poet, playwright and screenwriter.